| Yes. And them saying ai likes mr. Sawaki creeps me |
| I felt that way too, and I wondered if he was a good guy or a bad guy. |
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| When they were hinting that Ohto might like the teacher, I was like please no, when she started running towards him I WAS LIKE YOU BETTER NOT CONFESS Honestly hugging a student like that is just. Horribly uncomfortable to watch. Even as a European, and we're pretty touchy. Can't imagine what that must've felt like if you're japanese |
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| I don't like him very much either. Maybe this is an intentional move from the directors/writers |
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SkptixSx said: Seeing her hold him and blush nearly had me turn off the episode because I was just so turned away. Oh God same. I nearly turned it off too, i had to stop the episode multiple times to prepare for the possible confession to the guy with pedophile vibes... |
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| He is very sus, i still dont trust him, but maybe is just the show giving us paranoia and he is actually a jice guy... we dont know, but only 3 episodes left |
| Mr. Sawaki is definitely portrayed as a suspicious character. We'll have to wait and see if Ai is an unreliable narrator or not. I thought it was weird how the other girls were framing Ai as having affections for him. Ai went along with that train of thought and had that dramatic moment with him. If she does end up falling for him, that'll open up a huge can of worms. There's also the additional dimension that her mom has started dating Mr. Sawaki. I don't see (or don't want to see) those two fighting over him. |
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| I really don’t like Mr.Sawaki. I’m pretty sure that’s intentional though. It seems like he’s going to be an authoritative figure who uses that authority to abuse others, especially as it seems he played a huge part in Koito’s suicide. |
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nomnomdotcom said: sntiago said: Oh God same. I nearly turned it off too, i had to stop the episode multiple times to prepare for the possible confession to the guy with pedophile vibes... Would there be anything wrong with that though? This show is tackling some real life issues. We live in a world with terrible people that take advantage where and when they can. I think it would fit right in with the rest of the narrative. I'm not saying it's wrong to talk about that, obviously it's a thing that very much exists in real life. I'm just saying watching a young child be lead into a trap like this is hard to stomach for some people, at least it's hard to watch for me and I have to prepare myself mentally to watch certain stuff :) I don't mind the gore, or cutting or the suicide in the show but that man creeps me out, probably because it's not stated directly that he might be a pedophile and that makes the viewers imagination run wild |
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| He reminds me way too much of Kamoshida in a certain way, and Saegusa from O-Maiden in your savage season I don't have anything against student-teacher love relationships (and obviously Ai is too young here, I mean she's 14) but this guy is creepy |
DamuzenMar 7, 2021 6:55 AM
| I think he is deliberately portrayed in a suspicious light as the show wants us the find him shady with all these leads and he will be proven innocent with a some type of twist at the end. You can never know though. |
| sawakis def sus i saw him vent in admin |
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| SAME HERE!!! I FEEL SO UNCOMF WHEN I SEE HIM! |
| I think for any teacher to be that close with a 14 year old in a professional setting is creepy. No male teacher should be holding a 14 year old girl that close to himself even if they’re upset. I’m all for an arm round the shoulder or a pat on the back or whatever if someone’s upset but you shouldn’t be getting any closer physically which makes me feel suspicious of him. I just also think out of every woman he could possibly date, he dates the mother of the girl he used to paint/draw and call cute (or whatever he said to her I can’t remember exactly). Just seems like an excuse to find another target by getting to know Ais Mum.... I really hope I’m wrong and they’ve just spun it in a way which shows how things get taken out of context. |
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| No, I think you're being played by the staff. They know how to to portray him as a huge unsettling individual but I've got a feeling he will not be the monster some people think he is. |
AvveniristaMar 8, 2021 4:17 PM
| No. Representation of Sawaki in the anime is heavily influenced by the way Ai, the protagonist, view him. The thing is: Ai is not objective at all, she's a teenager girl who has problems and who is confused. To me Sawaki is just a normal guy who at first visited frequently Ai's home out of his duty as a teacher, then who started visiting also to see Ai's mom because it so happened they are into each others. I honestly hope the anime won't take the cliché and disappointing teacher=creep route. |
SkptixSx said: sntiago said: When they were hinting that Ohto might like the teacher, I was like please no, when she started running towards him I WAS LIKE YOU BETTER NOT CONFESS Honestly hugging a student like that is just. Horribly uncomfortable to watch. Oh my God YES! When they started going over possibilities I seriously wondered why it wasn't brought up. But instead, it was suggested Ai had feelings for her teacher. The whole thing made me so uncomfortable. Seeing her hold him and blush nearly had me turn off the episode because I was just so turned away. Mr.Sawaki so has to be some kind of pedophile or something. I really hope what Ai feels isn't attraction but she's mistakening her feelings of discomfort. sntiago said: SkptixSx said: Seeing her hold him and blush nearly had me turn off the episode because I was just so turned away. Oh God same. I nearly turned it off too, i had to stop the episode multiple times to prepare for the possible confession to the guy with pedophile vibes... I like how people actually assume that Ai's possible crush on him will make him a pedophile. That is, if you are a teacher and one of the students is in love with you, then you are a pedophile. LOL, ErikaFurudo said: I think for any teacher to be that close with a 14 year old in a professional setting is creepy. No male teacher should be holding a 14 year old girl that close to himself even if they’re upset. I’m all for an arm round the shoulder or a pat on the back or whatever if someone’s upset but you shouldn’t be getting any closer physically which makes me feel suspicious of him. I just also think out of every woman he could possibly date, he dates the mother of the girl he used to paint/draw and call cute (or whatever he said to her I can’t remember exactly). Just seems like an excuse to find another target by getting to know Ais Mum.... I really hope I’m wrong and they’ve just spun it in a way which shows how things get taken out of context. It is because of this paranoia that men are afraid to interact with children or even just be close with their own children, because moral guardians will see uncomfortable tension in any of their interactions. Ironically enough, in many cases, when female teachers corrupted their male students, no one noticed anything illegal about them until it became known because of the evidences and confessions of the victims. |
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| [quote=RobertBobert message=62259678] SkptixSx said: sntiago said: When they were hinting that Ohto might like the teacher, I was like please no, when she started running towards him I WAS LIKE YOU BETTER NOT CONFESS Honestly hugging a student like that is just. Horribly uncomfortable to watch. Oh my God YES! When they started going over possibilities I seriously wondered why it wasn't brought up. But instead, it was suggested Ai had feelings for her teacher. The whole thing made me so uncomfortable. Seeing her hold him and blush nearly had me turn off the episode because I was just so turned away. Mr.Sawaki so has to be some kind of pedophile or something. I really hope what Ai feels isn't attraction but she's mistakening her feelings of discomfort. sntiago said: SkptixSx said: Seeing her hold him and blush nearly had me turn off the episode because I was just so turned away. Oh God same. I nearly turned it off too, i had to stop the episode multiple times to prepare for the possible confession to the guy with pedophile vibes... I like how people actually assume that Ai's possible crush on him will make him a pedophile. That is, if you are a teacher and one of the students is in love with you, then you are a pedophile. RobertBobert said: SkptixSx said: Oh my God YES! When they started going over possibilities I seriously wondered why it wasn't brought up. But instead, it was suggested Ai had feelings for her teacher. The whole thing made me so uncomfortable. Seeing her hold him and blush nearly had me turn off the episode because I was just so turned away. Mr.Sawaki so has to be some kind of pedophile or something. I really hope what Ai feels isn't attraction but she's mistakening her feelings of discomfort. sntiago said: Oh God same. I nearly turned it off too, i had to stop the episode multiple times to prepare for the possible confession to the guy with pedophile vibes... I like how people actually assume that Ai's possible crush on him will make him a pedophile. That is, if you are a teacher and one of the students is in love with you, then you are a pedophile. LOL, I think you misunderstood. I doesn't mean that it makes him a pedophile if minors had crushes on him, that would make every handsome teacher a pedophile starting their career. I meant that the reveal that he might be a pedophile (hugging Ohtos friend in a very uncomfortable way) came before the revelation that Ohto might have a crush on him. So its uncomfortable to watch a young person "fall in love" with someone who is "obviously a pedophile" to older/more mature people, because that brings up the possibility of him exploiting that crush, and that's what makes it uncomfortable. A non-pedophilic teacher would never think about exploiting their students crushes for their own gain. We can argue if it makes him a pedophile for hugging a minor tho |
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| @sntiago I understand what you mean in general, but accusing a person on the basis of his "possible" reaction in the future is a very strong sophistry and a presumption of guilt. If someone said that a female teacher would most likely seduce any horny boy or girl who found them hot, that would be outright sexism. |
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| In response to some of the previous posts no adult male OR female should be holding a teenager that close to their body it’s just bizarre. Like I said a hand on the shoulder/pat on the back or whatever shouldn’t be taken out context but there’s some things teachers just should not do. It’s about being professional. Men/women shouldn’t be paranoid around children unless they think they’re doing something wrong. If you start being touchy feely with your students that’s when things get blurred, even if it isn’t in a sexual or predatory way you’re just leaving yourself open to criticism because what happens if it is? What happens if people turn a blind eye to it and then it turns out they were up to no good. |
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| At this point I would be surprised if he is not guilty of at least something. The way he is portrayed since the beginning of the anime almost assures that something is up. |
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RobertBobert said: @sntiago I understand what you mean in general, but accusing a person on the basis of his "possible" reaction in the future is a very strong sophistry and a presumption of guilt. If someone said that a female teacher would most likely seduce any horny boy or girl who found them hot, that would be outright sexism. I didn't accuse him from what might happen in the future. I'm strictly going off the scene where Ohto walked into her friend hugging/laying in the teachers arms, which to me (considering japanese people aren't very touchy in general) seems like something suspicious is going on between the teacher and Ohtos friend. I never accused anyone on the basis off what might happen in future, I'm saying its uncomfortable to watch someone fall in love with a person that might have exploited one students crush on them and that students depressed mood for physical contact with that student - physical contact beyond an acceptable student/teacher relationship. Wether that hug was beyond an adequate teacher/student relationship is what we can argue about, like I said |
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ErikaFurudo said: In response to some of the previous posts no adult male OR female should be holding a teenager that close to their body it’s just bizarre. Like I said a hand on the shoulder/pat on the back or whatever shouldn’t be taken out context but there’s some things teachers just should not do. It’s about being professional. Men/women shouldn’t be paranoid around children unless they think they’re doing something wrong. If you start being touchy feely with your students that’s when things get blurred, even if it isn’t in a sexual or predatory way you’re just leaving yourself open to criticism because what happens if it is? What happens if people turn a blind eye to it and then it turns out they were up to no good. Lol, you literally blame people for your own sexualisaton of their interactions. This is something on the level of fujoshi or yuri fan mindset, when ordinary friendly interaction is instantly interpreted as sexual tension. sntiago said: RobertBobert said: @sntiago I understand what you mean in general, but accusing a person on the basis of his "possible" reaction in the future is a very strong sophistry and a presumption of guilt. If someone said that a female teacher would most likely seduce any horny boy or girl who found them hot, that would be outright sexism. I didn't accuse him from what might happen in the future. I'm strictly going off the scene where Ohto walked into her friend hugging/laying in the teachers arms, which to me (considering japanese people aren't very touchy in general) seems like something suspicious is going on between the teacher and Ohtos friend. I never accused anyone on the basis off what might happen in future, I'm saying its uncomfortable to watch someone fall in love with a person that might have exploited one students crush on them and that students depressed mood for physical contact with that student - physical contact beyond an acceptable student/teacher relationship. Wether that hug was beyond an adequate teacher/student relationship is what we can argue about, like I said All of this rests against the interpretation of an ordinary hug, and this in itself is very weird. In the US, teachers are not allowed to hug their students and is it considered extremely lewd? Hell, how far has modern American culture gone into the 19th century? |
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RobertBobert said: sntiago said: I didn't accuse him from what might happen in the future. I'm strictly going off the scene where Ohto walked into her friend hugging/laying in the teachers arms, which to me (considering japanese people aren't very touchy in general) seems like something suspicious is going on between the teacher and Ohtos friend. I never accused anyone on the basis off what might happen in future, I'm saying its uncomfortable to watch someone fall in love with a person that might have exploited one students crush on them and that students depressed mood for physical contact with that student - physical contact beyond an acceptable student/teacher relationship. Wether that hug was beyond an adequate teacher/student relationship is what we can argue about, like I said All of this rests against the interpretation of an ordinary hug, and this in itself is very weird. In the US, teachers are not allowed to hug their students and is it considered extremely lewd? Hell, how far has modern American culture gone into the 19th century? I'm from Europe and the most normal reaction to a student crying by a teacher is maybe an arm around the shoulder and a pat on the back. We wouldn't condemn someone for hugging and holding someone close to their body like this tho. However this is a Japanese show, and Japanese people are very conservative with physical touch, so very intimate contact like that is probably meant to be seen as "going too far" |
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sntiago said: RobertBobert said: All of this rests against the interpretation of an ordinary hug, and this in itself is very weird. In the US, teachers are not allowed to hug their students and is it considered extremely lewd? Hell, how far has modern American culture gone into the 19th century? I'm from Europe and the most normal reaction to a student crying by a teacher is maybe an arm around the shoulder and a pat on the back. We wouldn't condemn someone for hugging and holding someone close to their body like this tho. However this is a Japanese show, and Japanese people are very conservative with physical touch, so very intimate contact like that is probably meant to be seen as "going too far" The Japanese are quite free in physical contact when it is NOT interpreted as sexual. This is why over-the-top intimacy between young girls is so widespread in Japanese culture, because it is considered wholesome pureness. I don’t know which European country you are from, but in Russia this is considered normal, depending on the context and the established relationship between teacher and student. Although I must admit, a female teacher is unlikely to hug young guys, because of the teenage male hypersexuality and sexualization of the "hot female teacher" image, this will be perceived by lewd. |
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